Impossible to find Banshee in Unity on 11.10 by typing "Music"

[François Tissandier]

If you don't know the name of the application, you type "music". 0 installed result. Seems weird :)

Note:
Banshee needs input from the Unity team about whether or not searching in the Categories field(in the .desktop file) is considered feasible, as music is already listed there.

[Chow Loong Jin (hyperair)]

On 25/08/2011 16:52, François Tissandier wrote:
> Public bug reported:
>
> If you don't know the name of the application, you type "music". 0
> installed result. Seems weird :)

  affects ubuntu/unity
  status confirmed

Banshee's .desktop file name reports Banshee as "Banshee Media Player". Perhaps
Unity needs to be improved for this use case?

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Kind regards,
Loong Jin

[François Tissandier (baloo)]

There should be a field with keywords I think. Unity is very keyboard centric, so keywords a

[François Tissandier (baloo)]

oups

keywords are critical if we want users to be able to find the applications.
There is a comment field that could fit. But for Banshee, it's all about "media", nothing about music or video. It should include more keywords in my opinion.

[Chow Loong Jin (hyperair)]

On 25/08/2011 20:21, François Tissandier wrote:
> oups
>
> keywords are critical if we want users to be able to find the applications.
> There is a comment field that could fit. But for Banshee, it's all about "media", nothing about music or video. It should include more keywords in my opinion.

The comment is "Play and organize your media collection". Perhaps it should be
made to "Play and organize your music and video collection"?

--
Kind regards,
Loong Jin

[François Tissandier (baloo)]

Yes, that would fix this particular problem.

But in my opinion, given the way Unity is working, a "keywords" field would be nice. I would then put "play, player, music, mp3, audio, video, clips, cd, albums, media, collection, organize" etc... etc... I know I'm probably talking about a field which does not exist, but Unity is about redefining the way we use Ubuntu, so I throw ideas without really thinking about the technical constraints. Maybe improvement the description is a nice first step, keywords would be a second improvement. Thanks anyway if you can at least implement the first fix ! :)

[Chow Loong Jin (hyperair)]

Cross posting from upstream (Banshee) bug report…
Bertrand Lorentz says:
Unfortunate indeed, the same thing happens with GNOME-shell.

If we do this change, I want to make sure Banshee would still be found when
searching for "media".
We would still have the word "media" in the GenericName entry, and GNOME-shell
seems to also use it to search. Could you confirm that Unity also uses it ?

Our .desktop file has "music" in the Categories entry. Maybe that could also be
used for the shells for searching ?

[DrKay (dr-jameskay)]

Could we please find out why this bug was marked as "Incomplete"? Is there more information that is needed?

[Chow Loong Jin (hyperair)]

Banshee needs input from the Unity team about whether or not searching in the Categories field is considered feasible, as music is already listed there. See comment #6.

[Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen (kamstrup)]

unity-lens-applications indexes the X-GNOME-Keywords field, so that seems like a possibility.

Relatedly; I don't think it is a good idea to match in the Categories field via text searches (even though it's a trivial tweak in u-l-a). The Categories contains semantic data and not user content (and is not translated).

We could potentially index the <Name> of the <Menu> tags in which we find the apps and attach that to the application. This will just be pushing the problem around though (Banshee is listed in the "Multimedia" <Menu> element).

[justcomplaining (justcomplaining)]

Also affects Xnoise for example.