Ayatana Design

Auto-maximizing of Windows which take over 75% of the screen

Bug #792484 reported by Martin Wildam on 2011-06-03

This bug report is a duplicate of: Bug #797808: Window auto-maximise functionality should be disabled on monitors with a resolution above 1024 x 600 . Edit Remove

This bug affects 4 people

	Status	Importance	Assigned to
Ayatana Design	New	Undecided	Unassigned
Unity	New	Undecided	Unassigned
unity (Ubuntu)	Incomplete	Undecided	Unassigned

Bug Description

Binary package hint: unity

I was quite annoyed when I noticed that some windows always opened maximized despite the size I resized them to before closing.

Then after playing around I found out that only when I resize the window under a particular size, it is not reopened maximized.

Only after searching at askubuntu.com I found that the magic number is 75 %. How can a user know, when the windows is covering more or less than 75 %? OK, if it is only thumb size, it is less - so far I can guess, but 60 % or 70 % who has the perfect eye to see this? - I do see here something I always hated on Windows: Somebody tried to be smarter than me. I mean, when I resize the window I know very well, when a window has the size I want it to have and keep.

Before I get a won't fix here: Behaviour that is obviously confusing the user in my eyes is a bug. On one hand Ubuntu wants to be the first choice for new users - which such behaviour is not assisting reaching those - and on the other hand neither the experienced user is fond of such behaviour. So there is really nobody helped with this.

It is ok, to snap windows on borders like it was before. But don't adopt the Windows 7 behaviour which is simply annoying (they are doing similar crap).

Please - it is so easy to double click on the title for maximizing. The only thing I could understand is: If the window is larger than the screen size it back and maximize it.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
Package: unity 3.8.12-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic-pae 2.6.38.2
Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae i686
Architecture: i386
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CompositorRunning: compiz
DRM.card0.DP.1:
status: disconnected
enabled: disabled
dpms: Off
modes:
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DRM.card0.DP.2:
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dpms: Off
modes:
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DRM.card0.DP.3:
status: disconnected
enabled: disabled
dpms: Off
modes:
edid-base64:
DRM.card0.HDMI.A.1:
status: disconnected
enabled: disabled
dpms: Off
modes:
edid-base64:
DRM.card0.HDMI.A.2:
status: disconnected
enabled: disabled
dpms: Off
modes:
edid-base64:
DRM.card0.LVDS.1:
status: connected
enabled: enabled
dpms: On
modes: 1440x900
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DRM.card0.VGA.1:
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modes:
edid-base64:
Date: Fri Jun 3 19:26:27 2011
DistUpgraded: Fresh install
DistroCodename: natty
DistroVariant: ubuntu
DkmsStatus: virtualbox-ose, 4.0.4, 2.6.38-8-generic-pae, i686: installed
GraphicsCard:
Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
   Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0263]
   Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0263]
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release i386 (20110427.1)
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InstallationMedia__: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release i386 (20110427.1)
MachineType: Dell Inc. Latitude E5500
PccardctlIdent:
Socket 0:
   no product info available
PccardctlStatus:
Socket 0:
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ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
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ProcVersionSignature__: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic-pae 2.6.38.2
Renderer: Unknown
SourcePackage: unity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
dmi.bios.date: 04/15/2009
dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.bios.version: A11
dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.chassis.type: 8
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dmi.product.name: Latitude E5500
dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.
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version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 7.10.2-0ubuntu2
version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A
version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 7.10.2-0ubuntu2
version.xserver-xorg: xserver-xorg 1:7.6+4ubuntu3
version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.14.0-0ubuntu4
version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.1
version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.16+git20110107+b795ca6e-0ubuntu7

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Martin Wildam (mwildam) wrote on 2011-06-03:

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Martin Wildam (mwildam) wrote on 2011-06-03:

References on askubuntu.com:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/45270/prevent-unity-from-auto-maximizing
http://askubuntu.com/questions/40571/how-to-keep-programs-from-launching-maximized-11-04

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Brendan Donegan (brendan-donegan) wrote on 2011-06-23:

This sounds like it was an intentional feature. I think before this can be changed it needs input from the Ayatana design team so setting to incomplete and adding 'needs-design'

tags:	added: needs-design
Changed in ayatana-design:
status:	New → Incomplete
Changed in unity (Ubuntu):
status:	New → Incomplete
Changed in ayatana-design:
status:	Incomplete → New

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Martin Wildam (mwildam) wrote on 2011-06-23:

Thank you very much - reading Bug #797808 (which is not exactly a duplicate) I must revise my opinion that the automaximizing is always a bad idea. In fact for very small screens where 75 % is nearly the same as 100 % from the user impression, I agree with the idea to automaximize only up to 1024x600.