Activity log for bug #732653

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2011-03-10 15:31:18 Matthew Paul Thomas bug added bug
2011-03-10 15:31:36 Matthew Paul Thomas bug task added ayatana-design
2011-03-10 15:31:46 Matthew Paul Thomas tags sniffles
2011-03-10 15:32:21 Matthew Paul Thomas description Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are completely hidden. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
2011-03-10 17:27:04 Alex Launi unity: status New Incomplete
2011-03-10 17:27:11 Alex Launi tags sniffles needs-design sniffles
2011-03-11 13:57:38 Didier Roche-Tolomelli unity (Ubuntu): status New Incomplete
2011-03-11 15:03:36 John Lea ayatana-design: status New Invalid
2011-03-11 15:03:39 John Lea unity: status Incomplete Invalid
2011-03-11 15:03:44 John Lea unity (Ubuntu): status Incomplete Invalid
2011-03-11 15:14:25 John Lea tags needs-design sniffles
2011-03-11 15:26:52 Paul Sladen ayatana-design: status Invalid Won't Fix
2011-03-11 18:42:58 Vish bug added subscriber Vish
2011-03-23 09:15:51 Matthew Paul Thomas description Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
2011-03-23 09:37:17 Florian Boucault bug task added unity-2d
2011-03-23 09:37:28 Florian Boucault unity-2d: status New Invalid
2011-03-24 12:04:21 Sean Hodges bug added subscriber Sean Hodges
2011-03-24 12:09:27 Alan Pope 🍺🐧🐱 🦄 bug added subscriber Alan Pope
2011-03-24 12:41:50 Joey-Elijah Sneddon bug added subscriber d0od
2011-03-24 13:41:23 Yann Dìnendal bug added subscriber Yann Dìnendal
2011-03-24 17:31:54 Diska bug added subscriber Diska
2011-03-24 22:41:42 David bug added subscriber David
2011-04-07 19:11:19 Ben Williams bug added subscriber Ben Williams
2011-07-02 18:57:24 Bracken bug added subscriber BigglesPiP
2011-08-25 20:43:42 Jonathan Meek bug added subscriber Jonathan Meek
2011-10-18 13:08:50 Marc Deslauriers bug added subscriber Marc Deslauriers
2011-10-18 22:43:20 Jiri Grönroos bug added subscriber Jiri Grönroos
2011-10-19 00:17:48 tekstr1der bug added subscriber tekstr1der
2011-10-20 22:55:34 Jean-Philippe Orsini bug added subscriber jf
2011-11-09 20:50:34 Marcel Leonard van der Grijn bug added subscriber Marcel Leonard van der Grijn
2012-03-04 17:25:04 Camilla Löwy bug added subscriber Camilla Berglund
2012-04-12 14:58:15 John Lea ayatana-design: status Won't Fix Confirmed
2012-04-12 14:58:22 John Lea unity-2d: status Invalid Confirmed
2012-04-12 14:58:28 John Lea unity (Ubuntu): status Invalid Confirmed
2012-04-12 14:58:33 John Lea unity: status Invalid Confirmed
2012-04-12 14:58:42 John Lea marked as duplicate 682788
2012-04-12 14:59:36 John Lea removed duplicate marker 682788
2012-04-12 15:00:05 John Lea description Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-)
2012-04-12 15:00:10 John Lea tags udp
2012-04-12 15:00:13 John Lea ayatana-design: assignee John Lea (johnlea)
2012-04-12 15:00:18 John Lea ayatana-design: importance Undecided High
2012-04-12 15:00:21 John Lea ayatana-design: status Confirmed Fix Committed
2012-04-12 15:00:42 John Lea unity: status Confirmed In Progress
2012-04-12 15:00:46 John Lea unity (Ubuntu): status Confirmed In Progress
2012-04-12 15:00:51 John Lea unity: milestone backlog
2012-04-13 20:35:43 Launchpad Janitor unity-2d (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2012-04-18 06:51:12 ShakI bug added subscriber ShakI
2012-04-22 12:49:35 Matthew Paul Thomas description Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility.
2012-04-22 13:45:41 John Lea marked as duplicate 682788
2012-04-22 13:45:49 John Lea ayatana-design: assignee John Lea (johnlea)
2012-04-22 13:45:51 John Lea ayatana-design: importance High Undecided
2012-04-22 13:45:57 John Lea ayatana-design: status Fix Committed New
2012-04-22 13:46:04 John Lea unity: status In Progress New
2012-04-22 13:46:13 John Lea unity (Ubuntu): status In Progress New
2012-04-22 13:46:17 John Lea unity-2d (Ubuntu): status Confirmed New
2012-04-22 13:46:29 John Lea unity-2d: status Confirmed New
2012-04-22 13:56:41 John Lea changed duplicate marker 682788 735233
2012-04-22 14:08:06 Launchpad Janitor unity (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2012-04-22 14:08:06 Launchpad Janitor unity-2d (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2012-04-23 07:00:58 John Lea changed duplicate marker 735233 682788
2012-05-22 13:07:14 Matthew Paul Thomas description Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility. Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*.
2012-05-22 13:07:19 Matthew Paul Thomas removed duplicate marker 682788
2012-05-22 16:59:52 John Lea description Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-)
2012-05-22 17:00:00 John Lea tags udp lim udp
2012-05-22 17:04:48 John Lea description Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server". 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu. What happens: 1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…". What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. ------------------------------------- Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issues described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project is bug #682788 The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': ------- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed ------- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-)
2012-05-29 14:14:25 Omer Akram unity-2d: status New Confirmed
2012-05-29 14:14:28 Omer Akram unity (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Medium
2012-05-29 14:14:32 Omer Akram unity-2d (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Medium
2012-05-29 14:14:36 Omer Akram unity: importance Undecided Medium
2012-05-29 14:14:40 Omer Akram unity-2d: importance Undecided Medium
2012-05-29 14:14:45 Omer Akram unity: status New Confirmed
2012-09-14 02:32:41 Tim Penhey unity: milestone backlog
2012-09-14 07:49:08 Tim Penhey tags lim udp exbacklog lim udp
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