system settings installation ambiguous

[Sandra Farnedi]

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[Original Report]Looking at software center page, it seems that neither System Settings nor KDE System Settings is installed, while, as you can see from my screen shot I have System Settings installed in my system (by default). If I install System Settings (NOT KDE System Settings) using s/w center, when the installation ends I see both System Settings installed.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: software-center 5.1.14.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-22.35-generic-pae 3.2.14
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-22-generic-pae i686
ApportVersion: 2.0-0ubuntu4
Architecture: i386
CasperVersion: 1.314
Date: Tue Apr 10 17:17:55 2012
ExecutablePath: /usr/share/software-center/software-center
InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.7
LiveMediaBuild: Edubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Beta i386 (20120410)
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: software-center
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

[Sandra Farnedi (sandra-farnedi-d)]

See the attached screen-shot after installing System Settings

[Sandra Farnedi (sandra-farnedi-d)]

I remove KDE System Settings, it seems they both are going to be removed (see attached screen-shot)

[Fabio Marconi (fabiomarconi)]

I'm asking myself where you can found KDESystem.... launcher ?
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[Sandra Farnedi (sandra-farnedi-d)]

When the removal is complete the situation is the one you can see in the attached screen-shot: System Settings seems to be installed, KDE S.S. seems to be removed, the second icon is not removed, but nothing happens if I click on it. The default System Settings goes on working correctly.

[Sandra Farnedi (sandra-farnedi-d)]

Reply to Fabio's question: KDE System Settings is included in s/w centere, anyway I installed System Settings (not KDE) which was already installed in my system but seemed NOT installed

[Fabio Marconi (fabiomarconi)]

clicking on the syst-settings -> more info we can see that is for kde too, so we have a double entry pointing the same package.
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[Ubuntu QA Website (ubuntuqa)]

This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/978118

[Sandra Farnedi (sandra-farnedi-d)]

> clicking on the syst-settings -> more info we can see that is for kde too, so we have a double entry pointing the same package.
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Please see Sebastien Bacher opinion about bug #978075.

[Fabio Marconi (fabiomarconi)]

sistemsettings is a kde package equivalent for gnome-control-center.
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[Nathan Williams (nathwill-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount)]

so, the issue here seems to be that there are 2 packages that are easily confused in Software Center.

The first is gnome-control-center, which is the "System Settings" application that is installed by default, and shows up in the Dash, but is listed in Software center with the title of "utilities to configure the GNOME desktop"

the second is systemsettings, which is NOT installed by default, but is listed in software-center with the *same name and icon* as gnome-control-center has in the dash (but not in software-center).

IIRC, this is a big usability problem, and frankly confused me quite badly before i read the version details in software center.

My opinion is that the right fix for this issue is to have gnome-control-center more closely resemble it's installed appearance in software-center (suggest changed title and icon to match those used in Dash). This would then lead to 3(!) results for "System Settings" search term, but at least the most likely candidate would be returned in the results.

[Nathan Williams (nathwill-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount)]

an add-on note... it looks like both of the currently returned results are for the package "systemsettings", but only 1 is listed as "KDE System Settings"

[Chris Wilson (notgary-deactivatedaccount)]

Is this a problem with the packaging on one or both of these apps or with the Software Centre's interpretation of that packaging?

[Paul White (paulw2u)]

Closing as this bug report is no longer valid - software-center is no longer included in any currently supported release of Ubuntu.